New Off Grid Inverter Charger

Started by nigel, June 15, 2012, 11:17:27 AM

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Robin

To answer the  questions from Tom:
1. The meters are Analog panel meters. We buy them from a supplier in China. Then we take them all apart. Drill holes in the back so we can install our own dual LED printed circuit board for lighting. The LED is a bicolor blue and red. When you turn on both at once it is purple. We are at present spending 1/2 hour per meter to make it our own. There are five different face plates. Tomorrow we will have filed for 8 patents and I can talk about it more.
2. Meters will all show blue in normal operation. If something goes bad, the meter will turn red. We haven't figured out what to do with purple if anything?
3. More on capacity tomorrow. We have to get the patents filed.

Photo 021 shows Andy's 750 watt wind turbine grid tie inverter. We will also have a 750 watt solar grid tie and a 1000W battery based grid tieable inverter in the same die cast Nema R enclosure with the cool display and blue tooth. The Classic is a prototype talking Classic.

Photo 018 is a shot from the end of the booth.
Robin Gudgel

boB


Actually, we DID talk about purple.  It should be another status indication but I can't exactly remember
what status now ?

boB
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TomW

Quote from: boB on September 13, 2016, 12:49:07 AM

Actually, we DID talk about purple.  It should be another status indication but I can't exactly remember
what status now ?

boB

boB;

Selling for the grid interactive units?

T
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24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

grgdgreek

Any sneak peaks of the off grid inverters?
Is it time to list my victrons on the "for sale" topic yet..:-) :-) lol
Home:6*135w mitsu.10*175w shuko. 2* cl150.3*D400 turbines.
Rolls18*4v series 5000 545ah*3 .2*Victron 3000 multiplus inv/chg. 24v. Shop:28*185w shuko. Sunny island. Sunnyboy.Rolls 40*s530.48volt.Sunny web box.

Robin

Don't sell your Victrons just yet. We are not done with the B17. The B17 is an off grid or grid tie inverter. It must use batteries. (48V).
Robin Gudgel

b4solar

The updates and the photos are very much appreciated. Thank you
Ben Zook
Belmont Solar

“Power, Without the Power Company”

Westbranch

Not being at all familiar with GT stuff, how does that GT inverter compare weight and size wise with the competition? 
Pics I have seen of SB stuff looks 5 X as big as a Classic and this one looks ~ the same size and volume, +-

tks
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

TomW

Quote from: Robin on September 13, 2016, 12:07:07 AM
To answer the  questions from Tom:

Robin;

Appreciate you taking the time to post these updates!

I suspect you folks are as busy as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest, not to mention the pucker factor of the very public debut of this new system.

Anyway it sounds fantastic and glad you share what you can.

Tom
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24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

Eleceng1979

#368
All,

I like what I see so far...looks like 1kw modules in a rack but some look different...  So maybe independent modules doing grid sell and others supporting local off grid loads?  interesting... if true the ability to place unnecessary modules to sleep driving up efficiencies and lowering idle current.  Possible to shutdown modules to limit ac coupling, drive up self consumption to help battery charge regulation...hmmm...  or even better like dc and ac coupling in one box! Using pv input modules and inverter output modules allowing one to build it "anyway you want" to allow for large pv input and low inverter output and vice versa...  basically pv input charge controller and inverter Lego modules... Maybe I'm crazy and reading too much into it.   I need a napkin to wipe the drool up.  Am I crazy for printing the pics on 11x17 and staring at it for extended periods of time and writing ideas on it?

Going to display at a show and still fighting the patent office...talk about Las Vegas gambling...   the good news is no one has anything that looks like it, is modular like it and cannot compete at the 8 kw+ inverter size in a single/modular box but you.  It's black, has analog gauges, is modular and stackable and just plain sexy!  A true midnite product.  Good job guys!  And good luck!
12.96 kW PV = 48 x Canadian Solar CS6K-270M - 2 x SMA Sunny Boy 6.0-US - Ironridge Ground Mount
Record Day = 81.847 kWhr

B17 and 2x1700AH batteries on my Christmas list for santa

Robin

Here are a couple brochures of products at the show. These are early proofs and have not been corrected yet, so there are errors.
Robin Gudgel

TomW

Sweet looking system. Wonder if that battery box will fit through my weird and cramped basement entrance or at least break down to fit.

You guys are going to have a lot of competitors wishing they had thought of this [and did it].

Like Will Smith said when he piloted the alien craft in Independence Day:

"I gotta get me one of these!"

Thanks for the share, again.

Tom
Do NOT mistake me for any kind of "expert".

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24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

grgdgreek

Quote from: Robin on September 14, 2016, 01:26:55 AM
Here are a couple brochures of products at the show. These are early proofs and have not been corrected yet, so there are errors.


Very Nice!!!
Any eta on the turbine?

George
Home:6*135w mitsu.10*175w shuko. 2* cl150.3*D400 turbines.
Rolls18*4v series 5000 545ah*3 .2*Victron 3000 multiplus inv/chg. 24v. Shop:28*185w shuko. Sunny island. Sunnyboy.Rolls 40*s530.48volt.Sunny web box.

Eleceng1979

Robin,

Thank you!  The B17 flyer is amazing on features and exactly what many needed.  I am stunned to say the least.  It is amazing and beautiful and the same time...

Thank you all for your hard work and throwing us a bone here to see the fruits of your labor.
12.96 kW PV = 48 x Canadian Solar CS6K-270M - 2 x SMA Sunny Boy 6.0-US - Ironridge Ground Mount
Record Day = 81.847 kWhr

B17 and 2x1700AH batteries on my Christmas list for santa

Westbranch

KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

ClassicCrazy

Nice ! The inverter is a beauty .
Is the talking Classic going to be a firmware update on the old Classics or is there some hardware change ?

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable