New Off Grid Inverter Charger

Started by nigel, June 15, 2012, 11:17:27 AM

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CDN-VT

#390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNQ_V7L8GiM

Will keep an I open  :o

Well said :A charge controller charges batteries. An inverter sucks them dry. The two do not need to even know the other exists!
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Westbranch

VT et al...... look like it should be in this section...  Interviews with Manufacturers...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoHd6hGDqS07IgCYb7JS8UI0FZ-FaFOgl


but it's not there yet...??
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Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
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TomW

Quote from: Westbranch on September 17, 2016, 05:06:17 PM
VT et al...... look like it should be in this section...  Interviews with Manufacturers...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoHd6hGDqS07IgCYb7JS8UI0FZ-FaFOgl


but it's not there yet...??

Probably actually deserves a thread of its own, if you cared to post it?

Tom
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24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

Westbranch

KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

keithwhare

Modular with potential for redundant inverter modules?

That's pretty cool!

The brochure says "do not take the system down if failed". Does this mean that an inverter module can be added or replaced with the B17 powered up?

I will be interested in seeing the dimensions and weights for the B17 units empty and for the inverter modules.

I assume these output US 120/240 volts?

Keith

onanparts

Quote from: keithwhare on September 18, 2016, 08:45:04 AM
Modular with potential for redundant inverter modules?

Yes!

That's pretty cool!

Agreed!

The brochure says "do not take the system down if failed". Does this mean that an inverter module can be added or replaced with the B17 powered up?

Hot swappable! You betcha!

I will be interested in seeing the dimensions and weights for the B17 units empty and for the inverter modules.

Coming soon

I assume these output US 120/240 volts?

That was the plan, plus possible 50/60Hz switchable. Robin/boB please confirm?

Keith
I got the deluxe kit, it had a solar cell and a meter.

Midnite B17-10. 50kW Cont. 150kW Surge... Me/Myself/And/I

onanparts

Here are the SPI brochure pics. See Robins reply # 369 page 25 in this thread for the PDF versions. :)
I got the deluxe kit, it had a solar cell and a meter.

Midnite B17-10. 50kW Cont. 150kW Surge... Me/Myself/And/I

CDN-VT

#398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNQ_V7L8GiM

Link IS UP

VT , use a head set , lots of background noise
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

niel

#399
that's really nice, but can you still wire in your classic if you don't have need of the b17 cc? i guess the real question might be if all modules are sold separately? in my case i need the 1 inverter. easily done?of course i need 1 inverter for 24v (differing b model?) so much of the mounts present for the b17 would be redundant. will you have smaller numbers of mounts available for smaller setups, ie fewer module openings? i'm probably jumping too far ahead, but i like my classic and just need the 24v inverter.

Westbranch

I seem to remember that Robin said it will be a good while before we might see a 24V model or similar inverter ....  B17 first and it hasn't made the street yet... ie no production units to hold in your hands....
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

onanparts

Quote from: niel on September 19, 2016, 10:18:49 PM
that's really nice, but can you still wire in your classic if you don't have need of the b17 cc? i guess the real question might be if all modules are sold separately? in my case i need the 1 inverter. easily done?of course i need 1 inverter for 24v (differing b model?) so much of the mounts present for the b17 would be redundant. will you have smaller numbers of mounts available for smaller setups, ie fewer module openings? i'm probably jumping too far ahead, but i like my classic and just need the 24v inverter.

Not sure if I can do a double quote here the easy way...so here it the hard way. Below in bold from Robins post #384.

There is a B17-5 and a B17-3. The -5 has five bays, two AC inputs and two PV/Wind inputs and comes with four SPD's.

The -3 is shorter because it has only three bays. One bay can be a charge controller or an inverter module. The other two bays are just for inverters.

This unit doesn't come with SPD's. The -3 main frame should be quite a bit less money. You can always connect up a Classic to the -3 if you want all three bays to be inverters. The system is pretty flexible.

People do like the looks of the B17. I always thought they would!



Robins key word "flexible". The curtain has only been pulled back from the flagship B17-5. Midnite is going to have many sizes/versions of Inverter/Chargers etc. Classic owners will not be required to buy the modular MPPT CC's.

It's all mix and match based on what you already have and what you want or need! :) Stay tuned! I'm certain Midnite will be turning loose more detailed info soon.

I got the deluxe kit, it had a solar cell and a meter.

Midnite B17-10. 50kW Cont. 150kW Surge... Me/Myself/And/I

TomW

Quote from: onanparts on September 20, 2016, 12:27:40 AM


Robins key word "flexible". The curtain has only been pulled back from the flagship B17-5. Midnite is going to have many sizes/versions of Inverter/Chargers etc. Classic owners will not be required to buy the modular MPPT CC's.

It's all mix and match based on what you already have and what you want or need! :) Stay tuned! I'm certain Midnite will be turning loose more detailed info soon.

A Classic or any other charge controller [I think] should be able to connect directly to the battery pack stand alone. Might affect state of charge seen by the B-17 system or something?

If Robin says "flexible", I expect it it will be quite flexible?

Just from here.
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I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

b4solar

#403
The big B-17 will likely only support 48V. 24V will likely be in a smaller package around four years from today. There's enough of good DC to DC step down converters available that most systems will likely go to 48V anyway.
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