New Off Grid Inverter Charger

[Robin]

We are working on all the different bills of materials. I need those updated before it is possible to even venture a guess. I do expect to have an idea before too long though. It will be published here. This is not a cheap inverter though.

[ClassicCrazy]

We are working on all the different bills of materials. I need those updated before it is possible to even venture a guess. I do expect to have an idea before too long though. It will be published here. This is not a cheap inverter though.

Be nice if some beta units are going to be available if it was before Jan 1 for solar tax credit purposes.

Larry

[Robin]

Sorry, but we will not have anything available for beta testing until 2017. This is a very complicated product. We have many engineers working on the various different parts, but it just won't be ready that quick.

[niel]

robin, maybe it will be a good idea to address the other units you plan to manufacture rather than the 24v b17, especially if it's to be the same cost as the 48v version. i certainly don't need anything that size unless i hit the lottery. i would like something to take the place of my mms 1012, but would like 24v and it's not to be from magnum as these things have not been reliable to me. maybe it's just this model, but faulting is a problem with them and i want something reliable that i know you guys would produce. the outbacks are too pricey and i don't need 2500w as 1 to 1.5kw is fine by me, but used in a backups fashion with built in versatile charging ability. that is, one shouldn't have to have a remote to use it with agm batteries or to have more control over the charger.

[Robin]

Take a look at the attached photo of Andy's inverter. This a 750 watt wind grid tie inverter. Andy will also make a solar version that looks identical. Then we will make a 1000W battery based grid tieable inverter in the same case. That one may have more buttons. Hard to do much with only three buttons. I hadn't thought about a 24V version, but hey, why not? This will be stackable, so if 1000W (or so) isn't large enouogh, just buy another one. All three of these inverters can work together in an AC coupled mode. You will have blue tooth on all of them. We may even be able to add wi-fi as an option? No remote will be required, but I do hope we at least make it an option for the battery based unit. That way it may be able to talk to you like the Classic is learning to do. We do have talking Classics in engineering now, but they are not finished. Voice does take a long time as it is a lot of work. I am hopeful that future talking units can benefit from the Classic development.
Did I answer your questions?

[Robin]

Here is a shot of the insides. As you can see, this inverter design is well on its way.

[TomW]

Robin;

Thanks for the share of the inverter porn! She is a sweet looking little unit.

You guys sure are not slacking off on the new product development there!

Been planning a system around The B17 awhile now.

Only missing parts are the inverter and batteries.

[Robin]

Tom, I have not shown all our engineering projects. We have a unix based comm box in the works as well as a very inexpensive rapid shutdown system. Oh yeah, there is a 1500 watt 120/240version of Andy's inverters too. All these projects are fully staffed. There are a few other products I want to squeeze in also. Among them are a couple more large MPPT controllers and a 4000 watt Magnum or FX style inverter. This new style will be based on the B17 design, but will not be modular. It will not have a bunch of bells and whistles. IT will just be a basic workhouse. I expect it to be very inexpensive.

[CDN-VT]

Tom, I have not shown all our engineering projects. We have a unix based comm box in the works as well as a very inexpensive rapid shutdown system. Oh yeah, there is a 1500 watt 120/240version of Andy's inverters too. All these projects are fully staffed. There are a few other products I want to squeeze in also. Among them are a couple more large MPPT controllers and a 4000 watt Magnum or FX style inverter. This new style will be based on the B17 design, but will not be modular. It will not have a bunch of bells and whistles. IT will just be a basic workhouse. I expect it to be very inexpensive.

Kewl

[niel]

robin, yup that sounds like the 1kw battery backed gt unit might fit the bill. how versatile would the charging circuit be as i would like to customize the charge current and voltage a bit? of course i'd like 24v as well. would this be mountable on the epanel i have for the mms 1012 or would i need a new face for it or new epanel altogether? projected availability and price area? any and all other possible incidental details?

[Robin]

Niel, We haven't started the mechanical layout of this unit yet. All I know is that I want it to be in the same case as Andy's inverter. That will probably happen.
None of the features have been decided yet, but I sure want the charging parameters fully adjustable. How do we accomplish this? Probably through the LCD window with capacitive touch buttons. The question is how many buttons can we fit on that clear panel? We have not yet looked at this. We may have to have the ability to connect up our MNGP, but that just adds cost.
I do not know just how this will interface with an E-Panel? Haven't given it any though yet, but I doubt it will fit on your Magnum panel. I want to see if we can reduce cost on this necessary box. Don't know if we can though?
We have no idea when this will be available or at what cost. Bob is working on the B17 at the moment. Once that is done, we can spin off a couple more inverter designs based on the B17. Bob is making good progress though.

[Westbranch]

Robin,  dumb idea??  If the unit will have Blue-Tooth what about an Android based clone ( like Graeme's Android version) of the MN Local App, for setting the charge parameters... 
Cripes these days  just about everyone has an Android  based  Tablet or smart phone, though I still resist.... we don't have a good relationship.... yet 
(Shades of the Samsung Note7 burning in my hands just went through my warped mind )

Is that possible without WiFi?

[Robin]

The Blue tooth app that Matt is designing for the Android will allow full tailoring of battery charge parameters. This is not just a one way status app.

[Westbranch]

Great!
thanks for the update Robin.

[CDN-VT]

The Blue tooth app that Matt is designing for the Android will allow full tailoring of battery charge parameters. This is not just a one way status app.

HAVE a usb BT plug , Add on if needed .
As with all extras are just a plug point .
USB , Miniusb , Micro usb , Fire wire etc.

SOME don't like all the micro / electrical waves floating all over .

VT