New Off Grid Inverter Charger

Started by nigel, June 15, 2012, 11:17:27 AM

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ralph day

I think a neutrino just went right through you Nigel.  Not to mention the radio waves (am, fm, tv etc etc) that have been passing through us all for our entire lives.  Maybe I'm just not sensitive enough to notice :-\ ;D

Ralph

CDN-VT

Im trying to get rid of "Dirty Electricity "
Ralph , there are many sites to read of bombardment of RF and the effects . I live with one & when we moved here (ranch & no cell or cable ,OTA tv , & power only _Was Friggin GREAT )Now the city folk from Kanda has moved over to the retirement capital of CDN, Here !!! & they brought all the city BS with it.. We were once all farmers in the 70's when I bought & a village of 300 folks .
GONE , 4 Cell towers & they want 3 more ,smart meters with 3 RF transmitters in each .
Info : Three Antennas Inside a Smart Meter
An Investigation of Radiofrequency Fields
Associated with the Itron Smart Meter
http://heartland.org/sites/default/files/sites/all/modules/custom/heartland_migration/files/pdfs/29676.pdf
page 34

I put in a wireless router many years ago when I got my first Panasonic toughbook & then picked up a LCD new flat screen tv Digital  to replace the OTA flat-screen one , that was a stupid TV , it would always babble on the wireless & my WIFE went / started going wonky . I was getting cold shoulders to being a jerk , I notice she was getting tired & ill or off all the time & I lost my wife as I knew her. (ILL  as in dead tired & the headache )  I pulled the Wireless router & hardwired the ranch , sold off the stupid TV & bought a regular LED with 2 watts Idle & 34 running 50" one .
Since then Were all back to normal or as it was before .
I didn't think this was possible & she was jerking me , Just for a test , 8 months after I put the wireless in my garage & used my hard wired laptop but turned off the LAN part & used the wireless in the toughbook at my office desk . Say 2 weeks & im getting close to the dog house again & she is not sleeping well & bitchy .

I didn't let on that I did that , it was for me to see if it was a hoax or real .
So were all hardwired here & the cordless phone lives outside in the garden shed & used outside etc.

Im eating well again .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMasG5EQ340

VT
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

Robin

So, I think you are saying that some people do not want the Blue tooth enabled all the time? If people are fearful of a blue tooth that can put out only a few milli-watts, wouldn't they be a lot more bothered from the 750 watt switching power supply called an inverter that the blue tooth is attached to?
Robin Gudgel

CDN-VT

Robin , This RF stuff I don't know !! But I do see the results of it from more than just my wife.

Cell phones to ears , wearing a Blue tooth ear device every day for a phone call is just goofy in my eyes .

thalidomide babies,tobacco/smokes,Oxycontin given out as skittles & speed as a weight loss drug in the 60's ,,
YA we know it all !!!

My EZURiO  TDK Bluetooth USB Adaptor reaches 300 feet from my laptop , Highly encrypted and we have 5 of them working on different machines / laptops  at the same time .AME techs reading & setting up the fling wings . MY zone of work .

IM just saying , OPTIONS of a few jacks to plug in extras if needed & required . Like the WBjr is now sold as an option .
B17 should have the options of jacks in USB 's  to add if required . or just hardwired ..

Cell phones were out in the 80s & i had one ,the 6441 unit sold in Vancouver & it was recalled due to 5 watt outputs ect. Prior to that I have a phone you called up repeaters.
It was a car style so i never had the full RF . I drop out  of the cell / constant at your call in 1999 & just phone the ranch & leave a message .. Im working on something & you might be next in line.

I wouldn't have it automatically installed , hospitals get overboard on cell phones on visitors when all the staff are walking zombies on theirs behind doors  .. Been Cell free since 1999 & better.


VT
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

bailey

Robin,

    Another vote for making the RF communications optional!  We have had several customers that had health concerns with RF communications.  A related issue is that we have had so much trouble recently with wi-fi interfaces that we are now specifying a hardwired ethernet connection to a customer router for all new solar systems that use web-based monitoring.  The service calls for dealing with wi-fi problems as customers (and neighbors), install new wireless web stuff has been getting totally out of hand.

Cheers,

Kirk Bailey
Abundant Solar

TomW

WRT Bluetooth and RF concerns.

A simple jumper to disable it might be a solution?

Personally, I am not convinced it is a hazard but, then I have a herd of wireless devices here from phones and computers to routers, garage door openers and doorbells.

Some folks just love to see the sky falling.

If you are afraid of wireless devices then don't buy or use them! Sadly for those folks, RF is everywhere and you can't avoid it unless you live in a Faraday cage like an RF "Bubble Boy".

Just opinions and likely not shared by anyone.

I am slightly more concerned with what idiot we will end up with here in the White House. Not looking forward to either a Socialist or a Robber Baron in that role.

How 'bout those Cubs!

Its all good, at least right now.

At some point "Feature Bloat" can kill any good product. I just want my phone to make phone calls. Don't get me stated on equipment that talks. ::)

I ramble.

Tom
Do NOT mistake me for any kind of "expert".

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24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

ClassicCrazy

Quote from: Robin on November 02, 2016, 11:58:08 PM
So, I think you are saying that some people do not want the Blue tooth enabled all the time? If people are fearful of a blue tooth that can put out only a few milli-watts, wouldn't they be a lot more bothered from the 750 watt switching power supply called an inverter that the blue tooth is attached to?

You hit the nail on the head there Robin !
But RF paranoia does not have reason.
There are people who spend hundreds of dollars  for a few capacitors and resistors to plug into their outlet thinking it will clean up their "dirty power" .   The people who sell them those devices smile all the way to the bank.

Larry
system 1
Classic 150 , 5s3p  Kyocera 135watt , 12s Soneil 2v 540amp lead crystal for 24v pack , Outback 3524 inverter
system 2
 5s 135w Kyocero , 3s3p 270w Kyocera  to Classic 150 ,   8s Kyocera 225w to Hawkes Bay Jakiper 48v 15kwh LiFePO4 , Outback VFX 3648 inverter
system 3
KID / Brat portable

mike90045

Quote from: TomW on November 03, 2016, 08:05:50 AM
.....If you are afraid of wireless devices then don't buy or use them! Sadly for those folks, RF is everywhere and you can't avoid it unless you live in a Faraday cage like an RF "Bubble Boy"....

And there are some folk off-grid to be away from the wireless stuff.  Different frequencies, do different things,
60hz is great for power transmission, but you need 2.4Ghz to nuke popcorn (and wipe out the neighborhood wi-fi)
Cell phones used to be 900 Mhz but now are somewhere else
http://tinyurl.com/LMR-Solar

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Halfcrazy

And as an Avid ham radio guy the less crap stuff I have sending out RF the happier I am. I fully agree just like my iPhone the blue tooth or wifi needs the ability to be disabled
Changing the way wind turbines operate one smoke filled box at a time

CDN-VT

In my  .MIL time , The Inuit would stand in front of the DEW lines paraolic shape radar reflector to warm up !!
60-1977 era & they were sperm / egg dead . T uktoyaktuk
Link has now DEW now ,Im old : https://www.google.com/search?q=tuktoyaktuk&biw=1280&bih=654&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjS9bytgI7QAhXox1QKHZtvAMEQsAQIJw

Of course I tell the dentist to keep the lead shield off during teeth exams ,, CUZ I AM  MAN & can take it !!!
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

niel

rf fears aside it's still good to hardwire stuff. rf pollution can even play havoc with stuff for those who aren't worried about rf tin foil hat stuff, but a few milliwatts won't do anything harmful unless the harmonics do something. i don't mind the bluetooth, but i haven't any cell phones or notebooks to use with it either. i don't have a fear of them, but i just don't use phones enough to justify it and notebooks are too small for these eyes to see that well. my pc uses a 32 inch screen. when that's not enough i use ctrl +.

anyway, maybe you'll find a way around the button issues and i don't mind the housing the inverter will be in if maybe you can build an adapter plate that'll bolt onto the old inverter holes and allow the new inverter to also bolt up to the adapter. it's just not feasible to totally revamp to a new epanel that would work with it. a full new door is possible too, but more work and expense. in fact, i'm surprised you didn't go that route in the first place so that doors wouldn't be so different. that way only a few standard doors that would have the proper adapters that'll work with them. simply put, change of adapter and not the door.

Westbranch

Niel, I adapted a 'custom ' door with a sheet of Lexan that covered all the OB holes and I bolted a non 'fitting' inverter to mount on the  customized door....only a few bucks for the Lexan...
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

Robin

I hear you all loud and clear! The blue tooth in Andy's inverter was put there because it was that or nothing due to cost. Blue tooth is about $5.00 in parts. Wi-Fi and Ethernet are twice that. We felt that some form of communications was desired so BT won out. We will make it so it can be disabled. For those of you that want the ultimate in communications, our upcoming Linux Comm box has Wi-FI and BT standard as well as Ethernet and a bunch of USB ports etc.

I do wish someone would get to the bottom of RF and health.
Cancer is taking its toll on my immediate family.
Robin Gudgel

TomW

Quote from: Robin on November 07, 2016, 09:40:22 AM

I do wish someone would get to the bottom of RF and health.
Cancer is taking its toll on my immediate family.
Robin;

That is a hard thing to watch.

Lots of survivors these days like my brother in law who never gave up even when he was at his worst. 100% recovery so far. The cure was pretty nasty but any fight you walk away from is a good fight.


Best of wishes to your relatives who are in the fight of their lives.

Tom

Do NOT mistake me for any kind of "expert".

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24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

onanparts

boB has been hording all the Inverter cake but maybe Some Inverter Pie will be available next year?
I got the deluxe kit, it had a solar cell and a meter.

Midnite B17-10. 50kW Cont. 150kW Surge... Me/Myself/And/I