MNGP

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bbbuddy

Data not logged on 11/1/2012....

boB

Quote from: bbbuddy on November 05, 2012, 11:53:04 AM
Data not logged on 11/1/2012....


And no entry for 11/1/2012 as well ???  Not even 0 kW-hours ??

boB
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bbbuddy

boB, the entry for the date is there, but as before, the DATA for the day is not logged...unless you want to believe that each of these days the Classic made 0 KWH, 0 high power, 0 float, etc... ;)

When this happens, during the day the MNGP readout looks exactly the same as any other day, ie, it's acting perfectly normal, shows the watts in etc.  But then at night the day's DATA is not saved.......and of course this doesn't show up until you check the LOG data.

Lya72

Hi,

Two questions to bbbuddy :

- Do you watch the Logs menu of the current day before Midnight ?

- Do you stop your Classic each day, before Midnight ?


These questions because the Classic write the day's datas in the Logs at Midnight, not before!!
And if you stop your Classic before, for any reason, these datas aren't written in memory.


Hoping that this can  help you,

Yann
1 Classic 200, 4 SILLIA panels 240W in 2 strings of 2, ie 960Watts and 60.8 Volts, 4 MIDAC Batteries 6V 240Ah, ie 24V bank (acid batteries)

bbbuddy

My Classic is never stopped, what would be the point? 

And I look at the Log during the day, to see the previous days....

Lya72

In my Classic Logs, when there are days without datas, it's  the days where i was obliged to reboot or stop the Classic before Midnight (Firmare upgrade, or wire changes...).

Bob gave a workaround with the Tweaks menu, but this solution creates two records for the same day, with one full of zero values.

That's all that I watched.


Yann
1 Classic 200, 4 SILLIA panels 240W in 2 strings of 2, ie 960Watts and 60.8 Volts, 4 MIDAC Batteries 6V 240Ah, ie 24V bank (acid batteries)

bbbuddy

and 11/8/12 no data logged....

thus far since 9/9/12 the data has not logged 6 times,   9/22, 9/29, 10/6, 10/16, 11/1, 11/8

These days all show as 0 high power, 0 kwh, 0 float hours, and these days are otherwise perfectly normal, ie I have not touched the system in any way to change things...these days are just like other days where the data HAS logged...

bbbuddy

Checked the logs this morning, and remarkably, and for the first time, I now see TWO logs for each of the missing data days, except for one day which still shows no data.

So the MNGP and Classic apparently HAD logged and kept the data, but was refusing to show it for those days, and NOW shows two separate days for 5 of the 6 days.  So while scrolling through the days it will show these days twice, once with zero data, and once with full data....this is new, I never saw it do this before.  Wonder what made it decide to post the data. 

Oh the only thing different this morning was that the MNGP had changed screens all by itself in the night for the first time ever, and was showing the empty "setup" screen.  My husband has never touched it, and I had no reason to....

boB

Quote from: bbbuddy on November 10, 2012, 02:13:53 PM
Checked the logs this morning, and remarkably, and for the first time, I now see TWO logs for each of the missing data days, except for one day which still shows no data.

So the MNGP and Classic apparently HAD logged and kept the data, but was refusing to show it for those days, and NOW shows two separate days for 5 of the 6 days.  So while scrolling through the days it will show these days twice, once with zero data, and once with full data....this is new, I never saw it do this before.  Wonder what made it decide to post the data. 

Oh the only thing different this morning was that the MNGP had changed screens all by itself in the night for the first time ever, and was showing the empty "setup" screen.  My husband has never touched it, and I had no reason to....


OK, this is more what I might expect from what I have heard some other classics do...   Give one good data point followed
by another one with zero data...  Like it did two data logs in a row.  The first one would log the data for the day and then
clear the days' statistics to zero getting ready for the next day.   Then, the second bogus data log would of course log
zero high-watts and kW-Hours etc. but battery voltage is always there so that would be about the only log with data
showing other than zero.  My question is, exactly how long after the first good data point is the second bogus
data point being logged ??   One second ?  This is what I have to figure out.


What was the setup screen that was empty ??

boB
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bbbuddy

Setup screen - 4th screen when pushing the status button - says setup in lower left corner, while two lines slowly scroll across screen from left to right...the screen right before the firmware info.  I'm not going to entirely rule out that one of us pushed the status screen to there and left it, but neither of us remember doing so, and there would be no point to doing so.

QuoteMy question is, exactly how long after the first good data point is the second bogus
data point being logged ??

Well, yesterday 5 out of the six days this has happened had two separate days logged, with one empty.  Today all 6 do...so it is posted several DAYS, not seconds later.  The last day was the 8th, and it NOW has two days showing.  The "total days logged" readout is 6 days higher than actual days.

boB

Quote from: bbbuddy on November 11, 2012, 01:19:47 PM

QuoteMy question is, exactly how long after the first good data point is the second bogus
data point being logged ??

Well, yesterday 5 out of the six days this has happened had two separate days logged, with one empty.  Today all 6 do...so it is posted several DAYS, not seconds later.  The last day was the 8th, and it NOW has two days showing.  The "total days logged" readout is 6 days higher than actual days.

OK, so can you read off the time stamp that the day (2 of the same days appear) that is reading 0 kW-hours ??   It may also be 23:59 as it
does not show seconds, just hour:minutes

If you are seeing one log value with the correct kW-Hours (etc...) and one with 0 kW-Hours (etc...)  then it must be happening right after
the first values are logged as those non-zero values are cleared to zero right after they are logged.  I am assuming it is within a second or
two or maybe within the same second as the non-zero logged values are stored.

boB

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bbbuddy

OK, I checked the last two dates, 11/01, and 11/08, and they both show 23:59, one with logged values and one without.  The total days logged changes, it does count those days twice.






boB

Quote from: bbbuddy on November 12, 2012, 11:05:28 AM
OK, I checked the last two dates, 11/01, and 11/08, and they both show 23:59, one with logged values and one without.  The total days logged changes, it does count those days twice.


Great !  This means that you are seeing what I thought you should be seeing.

This helps a lot.

Thanks !
boB
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