MNGP

[bbbuddy]

Everything has been going swimmingly since getting the replacement MNGP, except for a few minor things. I tried calling tech support but had to leave a message, so posting here...

Today is the first day I turned off my inverter for a while because it is cloudy, and wanted to save battery power while off doing chores.  When I came back in, I noticed that the MNGP is reporting fewer watts in than my Trimetric.  Would not have noticed this with the inverter on...and even with the inverter off, the MNGP should show at least 10 watts more in than the Trimetric, because our background 12 volt use is right around 10-11 watts...always.

The log data from yesterday is blank.

The log graph has always had a line at the bottom, then random dots on the right 1/4 of the screen, then a short line at the top right.  It has never "looked like the picture" in the manual ie; the line at the top...it also is always just a straight line, no "up and down squiggles"...

so, wondered about these random things.

[boB]

What were you displaying in the graph ?  Power in watts ?  voltage ?  etc...

The power display is logarithmic to help show a wider range of values.
It may need higher watts in order to fill the display with those squiggly
line looks...  Also, it will auto-range to help keep everything inside the top and
bottom bounds of the display.  If there are very high power points (or voltage or
whatever) from some other logging time keeping you from looking at a smaller
amount of power or voltage, you can try to move those large values off screen
but panning left (or right)....  Hold down the soft-left key and tap the left (or right)
key to move the display over 1/3 of a screen at at time.

That may not be your problem here but just in case...

boB

[bbbuddy]

I now have 2 days that no data was logged. 

9/22 shows:                              9/29 shows:

Hi Power   0                              0
Float        0                              0
KW Hours 0                              0
Hi Vbatt   24.1                          24.4
Hi Vpv     5.8                            6.9
Hi Fet t   23.2                           19.1


Also I tried to call tech (had to leave a message) because the MNGP is stuck in EQ this morning.  I EQ'd yesterday (set it for auto EQ 1 hour but after I reached float it never started to EQ so I started it manually, and it did go off after 1 hour.) 
Now this morning it has started in EQ even though it shows EQ was in manual and stopped.  Can't figure out how to get it to bulk...

Oh, and when scrolling through the log data, for example reading hi power, the display often keeps the same data showing for the next day, like showing Hi power at 1821w on day 5, same for day six, but if I go back to day 5 then forward to day 6 it will show a different number, like 1782w.  It does this for all the data, it does this a LOT.  So reading the old data means going forward, forward, forward, back, forward, forward, back, etc,etc.  Doesn't matter what speed I press the buttons.


added, well I got ahold of Mike, he's going to have someone call me back...

But I'm curious if anyone else out there is having these same anomalies.

[Vic]

Hi bbbuddy,

You should be able to Force Bulk by going to the Tweaks menu,  press Enter.  Then  press the right soft key,  and (IIRC)  the second to last option on the line is "Bulk".  Scroll over to Bulk,  and press the up arrow key.  This should force bulk.   You should also be able to terminate EQ by going to the Charge menu,  scroll to EQ,  press Enter,  and press the down arrow key.

Even with the current 6/29 FW,  I've seen  the status "EQ Done"  toggling twix the current charge stage (toggling with Float for ex),  eventhough an EQ has not been done for some days.  This appears to occur when EQ is manually terminated before the EQ Timer has timed-out.

Have you updated to the lates Classic FW?  This might be a good idea if you have not.

And,  when Updating the FW,  if you have not followed the process that is noted beginning with Post #9 in this thread,  you might want to update the FW again using the info here:
http://midnitesolar.com/smf_forum/index.php?topic=720.0

Did not look,  but this might be old news to you.  I cannot speak to the Log concerns.  An App might make reviewing Logs a lot easier -- I've not done that yet.  Good Luck,  Vic

[bbbuddy]

Hi Vic,
I've reported the problems to Ryan, he said he's seen one of them and will try to recreate the other two so as to be fixed in the next FM update.  My Classic came with the latest updates.

I manually started EQ yesterday but it ended on it's own and went back to float.  Then it was EQing this morning EVEN THOUGH it read manual and EQ stopped...yes, we got it into bulk using the tweaks menu.

[Vic]

Hi bbb..

Well,  I am a bit paranoid.

Do not do automatic EQs,  so set EQ to Manual,  AND,  set EQ time to 00:00 just in case it wants to do one anyway.

OK on the FW.  Good Luck,  Vic

[boB]

Hi Vic,
I've reported the problems to Ryan, he said he's seen one of them and will try to recreate the other two so as to be fixed in the next FM update.  My Classic came with the latest updates.

I manually started EQ yesterday but it ended on it's own and went back to float.  Then it was EQing this morning EVEN THOUGH it read manual and EQ stopped...yes, we got it into bulk using the tweaks menu.

Looking into this right now, bbuddy.

Thank you for the report !

boB

[bbbuddy]

no data logged yesterday....

[Halfcrazy]

Well we have found this here a couple times. Both times though if I go to the MNGP and go to the Daily Logs I see 2 separate entry's for that day one with the right values and one with 0's Are you seeing this as well?

[bbbuddy]

Actually it was no data logged 2 days ago not yesterday, so that makes it 3 Saturdays in a row.
9/22, 9/29, 10/6

I also have a bug where the data often doesn't change from one day to the next without backtracking.

I have not experienced it logging the same day twice, one with and one without data like you said...

[bbbuddy]

No data logged on 10/16....

[boB]

No data logged on 10/16....

So, are you saying that there is an entry (even if 0) for 10/15 and 10/17  but not for 10/16

boB

[bbbuddy]

No, I'm saying the actual data is not being logged, as in my post #2 in this thread:

9/22 shows:                              9/29 shows:

Hi Power   0                              0
Float        0                              0
KW Hours 0                              0
Hi Vbatt   24.1                          24.4
Hi Vpv     5.8                            6.9
Hi Fet t   23.2                           19.1

this makes the 4th day missed in the past 5 weeks

[boB]

No, I'm saying the actual data is not being logged, as in my post #2 in this thread:

9/22 shows:                              9/29 shows:

Hi Power   0                              0
Float        0                              0
KW Hours 0                              0
Hi Vbatt   24.1                          24.4
Hi Vpv     5.8                            6.9
Hi Fet t   23.2                           19.1

this makes the 4th day missed in the past 5 weeks

Are you reading this info on the Local app or on the MNGP

Also, did we get the software revision/date for the MNGP and the Classic ??

You might just need a new Classic  but these 2 questions we should have the
answers to.  Actually, it looks like you might be reading it off the MNGP since I
saw about buttons and the speed at which you pressed them.

Also, was the EQ problem you reported started and stopped with the Local App on
a PC/Laptop or the MNGP remote ??

boB

[bbbuddy]

Everything is being done from the MNGP as I do not have any way to hook up ethernet at this time.  The only bridge I have is USB...

MNGP is: 8/7/2012
Classic is: 6/29/2012