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Started by mahendra, June 09, 2024, 04:47:14 PM

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mahendra

#30
Quote from: FNG on September 20, 2024, 06:42:09 AMI do wonder if the Gate motor created a short on one leg that caused it to reset due to overload. I would expect an AC overload error but if it was quick enough the Rosie may overload into what we call a DESAT and if so it will reboot to protect itself without a log entry as it is primarily concerned on preservation not logs. Has it done it again?

All the numbers I see look like a couple aborted firmware updates and a lack of factory firmware, neither of those have any effect on operation

I was thinking the same thanks for confirming.

It has not done it again but I will monitor.
Will also check on the motor to see if it's probably failing.

Weird it happened around 3am ,motor wasn't even activated or running both the house and motor was sound asleep.
Guess it's early haloween.😁

Thanks guys
1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

Brucey

Quote from: mahendra on September 20, 2024, 11:08:04 AM
Quote from: FNG on September 20, 2024, 06:42:09 AMI do wonder if the Gate motor created a short on one leg that caused it to reset due to overload. I would expect an AC overload error but if it was quick enough the Rosie may overload into what we call a DESAT and if so it will reboot to protect itself without a log entry as it is primarily concerned on preservation not logs. Has it done it again?

All the numbers I see look like a couple aborted firmware updates and a lack of factory firmware, neither of those have any effect on operation

I was thinking the same thanks for confirming.

It has not done it again but I will monitor.
Will also check on the motor to see if it's probably failing.

Weird it happened around 3am ,motor wasn't even activated or running both the house and motor was sound asleep.
Guess it's early haloween.😁

Thanks guys
What kind of breaker do you have on the Rosie ac output?

mahendra


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What kind of breaker do you have on the Rosie ac output?
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Midnite CBI ,Rosie and Barcelona are on Midnite panels that were designed for them.
1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

Brucey

What kind of breaker do you have on the Rosie ac output?
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Midnite CBI ,Rosie and Barcelona are on Midnite panels that were designed for them.
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Sorry should have seen your earlier pics. Any issues having the Rosie and Barcie mounted so close together? My Rosie pulls in air from top fans and blows it out of the side panels, not sure what the Barcelona does air flow/direction wise. Not saying it's related to your glitch just a general question.

My hawkes bay 90A doesn't have the top fans, just the ones at the bottom pushing up the back of the rear heat sink. My hope is that will result in less operational noise vers Barcelona.

mahendra

#34
I didn't noticed any heat issues so far .
I think they both pull air from the top .
Area is pretty cool there are some shade provide by tress in that genny house converted to inverter and battery house.
Barcelona does a lot of his work during the day Rosie does not go beyond 4000w at max loads of the house.
Would say no more than 500w when the pump or mini splits aren't on.
I think I noticed turbo fans on both Rosie and Barcelona but rarely even heard either of the fans coming on to be frank.

Will definitely monitor the heat scenario  though.
1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

mahendra

Update.
Barcelona has done this Ground fault detected about four times
Breakers have not tripped, which seems to keep happening in the evening or morning during the approach of twilight.
 Any thoughts?

1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

Raster

Mahendra:

I got the same just once so far (Rosie, Barcelona with RS/AFGF board). Is there an explanation from MN what this is?

R.

mahendra

Raster, I think I am asking the same .
Seems like a bug to me . I have checked top to bottom and can't find a culprit.
Or maybe I am missing something 🤔
1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

Brucey

Quote from: mahendra on September 23, 2024, 10:16:13 PMI didn't noticed any heat issues so far .
I think they both pull air from the top .
Area is pretty cool there are some shade provide by tress in that genny house converted to inverter and battery house.
Barcelona does a lot of his work during the day Rosie does not go beyond 4000w at max loads of the house.
Would say no more than 500w when the pump or mini splits aren't on.
I think I noticed turbo fans on both Rosie and Barcelona but rarely even heard either of the fans coming on to be frank.

Will definitely monitor the heat scenario  though.

Should be able to see the temps via the mngp2.

While they pull air from the top they vent out thru the side panels, so I assume Barcelona may be pushing warmer air out directly on the Rosie's exhaust vents? I noticed also in previous notes you've mentioned your Barcelona runs hot/loud? my 450/100 pulls from bottom vents out top nothing on the sides so I could do flush side by side no problem with that design, but Rosie/Barcelona/hawkes bay seem to need more horizontal spacing.

mahendra

Maybe I mistyped but the don't run warm or hot they actually run cool . Fans rarely comes on. But I may be putting one of those air directors just to be sure.
1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

aaapilot

Quote from: mahendra on September 30, 2024, 11:29:04 AMUpdate.
Barcelona has done this Ground fault detected about four times
Breakers have not tripped, which seems to keep happening in the evening or morning during the approach of twilight.
 Any thoughts?


I had the issue with a Hawkes Bay CC.  MN swapped out the AFGF board & Toroids and haven't had a fault since.  FYI, if you do change out the board, you need to swap out the toroids as well.  They are a 'matched' set, tuned by MN, must be installed as a set. 

Dave
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mahendra

Well I should be uplifting the replacement board this week from my freight forwarding company(got a bit delayed with the strikes and all).
Will have to verify what's in the packages.
1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

boB

Quote from: mahendra on October 02, 2024, 03:06:53 PMWell I should be uplifting the replacement board this week from my freight forwarding company(got a bit delayed with the strikes and all).
Will have to verify what's in the packages.

What board ?

K7IQ 🌛  He/She/Me

mahendra

#43
Arc Fault and ground fault .
The one Rosie & Barcelona came with was missing a plug.
1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv

mahendra

#44
Quote from: Brucey on October 02, 2024, 09:57:18 AM
Quote from: mahendra on September 23, 2024, 10:16:13 PMI didn't noticed any heat issues so far .
I think they both pull air from the top .
Area is pretty cool there are some shade provide by tress in that genny house converted to inverter and battery house.
Barcelona does a lot of his work during the day Rosie does not go beyond 4000w at max loads of the house.
Would say no more than 500w when the pump or mini splits aren't on.
I think I noticed turbo fans on both Rosie and Barcelona but rarely even heard either of the fans coming on to be frank.

Will definitely monitor the heat scenario  though.

Should be able to see the temps via the mngp2.

While they pull air from the top they vent out thru the side panels, so I assume Barcelona may be pushing warmer air out directly on the Rosie's exhaust vents? I noticed also in previous notes you've mentioned your Barcelona runs hot/loud? my 450/100 pulls from bottom vents out top nothing on the sides so I could do flush side by side no problem with that design, but Rosie/Barcelona/hawkes bay seem to need more horizontal spacing.

So guys I installed the arc and ground fault toroids with the new replacement board things worked great until last week when I got the Ground fault notification on the MNGP.
I should also mention that I gave Rosie and Barcelona more space apart since it was suggested that they were too close.
I'm still trying to figure out the ground fault issue.
I did catch it still doing this during twilight or as the battery transitions to float.
Don't know If that means anything.

We will be swapping out the EG4 Lifepower4 batteries with the 4 Midnite Powerflo rack batteries update to the newest firmware as well in a couple of weeks.

1.5kw on Midnite classic 150(whizbang jr.) networked 0.660kw on classic lite 200 wbjr ,180ah CALB Lifepo4 48v battery bank,jkbms 150amps bms(top balanced) Outback vfx3648.
Soon to be added Sol Ark 8k with 5Dyness Bx51000 ,7.8kw pv