New Off Grid Inverter Charger

Started by nigel, June 15, 2012, 11:17:27 AM

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Robin

The 12V and 24V inverters will be just plain old inverters like everyone else.
The large one is quite different.
Robin Gudgel

Westbranch

Quote from: Robin on June 22, 2016, 12:30:19 AM

We may do a 24 and 48V 4000W off-grid unit too. Those last two should also have grid tie capability.

Robin, put me on the list for a 24 V model!! 
I'll be waiting, patiently......

Thanks,
EJ
KID FW1811 560W >C&D 24V 900Ah AGM
CL150 29032 FW V.2126-NW2097-GP2133 175A E-Panel WBjr, 3Px4s 140W > 24V 900Ah AGM,
2 Cisco WRT54GL i/c DD-WRT Rtr, NetGr DS104Hub
Cotek ST1500 Inv  want a 24V  ROSIE Inverter
OmniCharge3024  Eu1/2/3000iGens
West Chilcotin 1680+W to come

Robin

EJ, is this for running an off-grid home? If it is, I can gaurantee you will want the 48V B17. Don't worry we will get you guys such a sweet deal you will want the real deal. The B17 is awsome. That is actually an understatement and I normally don't say things like this. Of course there is a little issue of making it actually do what we envision. That will be a chore for sure. We should have all 20 different boards here in two to three weeks. Then the hard work begins.
Robin Gudgel

russ_drinkwater

I would love a 24 volt inverter, but I think the $$$$$$$$$$$$$'s may scare me off for a while!
Postage is also a killer to australia.
A 4kw latronics @ 24 volts is $3,700 and right at my doorstep. And from the 2nd hand ones I have been using they are really reliable
and built like an analog tank.
I can dream though!
Standalone. 20 Hyundai x 220 watts panels, 2 x classic 150's, Latronics 24 volt 3kw inverter, Whiz bang Jnr, 12 Rolls surrete  4KS 25P  batteries and WBJ.
Grid tie feed-in, 12.5 kw in 3 arrays generating 50 kws per day average. Solar river grid tie inverters

BobWhite

Quote from: Robin on June 22, 2016, 11:49:30 PM
EJ, is this for running an off-grid home? If it is, I can gaurantee you will want the 48V B17. Don't worry we will get you guys such a sweet deal you will want the real deal. The B17 is awsome. That is actually an understatement and I normally don't say things like this. Of course there is a little issue of making it actually do what we envision. That will be a chore for sure. We should have all 20 different boards here in two to three weeks. Then the hard work begins.


Robin , put me down for 48 V  off grid   8)
Walt
12-Lifeline AGM 8D's
10-Lifeline AGM GPL 31T
16- Diehard GC2
4-Classic 3-150 and 1-200
1-Classic Lite
2-BRATS
5wiz bang Jrs, , 2- Samlex-24Volt
5- 235 MX60s
10- Sharp 198
10 Solar world 345 XL Mono

TomW

Quote from: Robin on June 22, 2016, 08:21:10 PM
The 12V and 24V inverters will be just plain old inverters like everyone else.
The large one is quite different.

Every organization should have a flagship product. With a namesake like "The Flying Fortress" it conjures  a vision of a bullet proof  device.

I suppose "Off Grid" units require less certification than the ones used with  grid, so quicker to market?


Can't wait to see this project come to fruition.

Tom
Do NOT mistake me for any kind of "expert".

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


24 Trina 310 watt modules, SMA SunnyBoy 7.7 KW Grid Tie inverter.

I thought that they were angels, but much to my surprise, We climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies

vonbek

Hello,
I have not looked at this discussion for a while but it looks like we are finally close. Do I understand correctly that 12 volt inverters will be available, but not for off grid? I was hoping for a replacement for the Outback VFX 2812 which Outback has discontinued for the VFXR 2812A which requires the mate 3 which in turn has a lot of problems. I don't need anything fancy, just a reliable 12 volt off grid inverter. I do a lot of 12 volt systems off grid.
Anyway, how soon for pictures, pricing, specs, etc.
Dan


2 VFX 2812s, 1 MX 80, 1 MX 60, 4 C-40, 1 tri metric, many US 64s , 8 evergreen 110s, and 8 Kyocera KDX 145s

tecnodave

Vonbek,

I think what Robin said is that the 12 volt and 24 volt inverters will be "plain old inverters"  so I assume not grid tie........I really don't think 12 volt is grid tie territory.......so I'd bet 12 volt units will be an RV special to compete with Magna-Sine MS2812 and maybe an off grid unit similar.....I think that is where the volume is. Robin did mention that Magna -Sine is selling an awful lot of MS2812's.
I see a lot of them.

David
#1 Classic 150 12 x Sharp NE-170, 2S6P, 24volt L-16 Rolls-Surette S-530, MS4024 & Cotek ,  C-40 dirv.cont. for hot water
#2 Classic 150 12 x Sharp NE-170, 2S6P, 24 volt L-16 Interstate,Brutus Inv.
#3 Kid/WBjr 4/6 Sanyo 200 watt multilayer 4/6 P
#4 Kid/WBjr 4/6 Sanyo 200 watt multilayer 2S 2/3 P

russ_drinkwater

Any ideas what the kw rating/output would be on the 24 volt units?
Standalone. 20 Hyundai x 220 watts panels, 2 x classic 150's, Latronics 24 volt 3kw inverter, Whiz bang Jnr, 12 Rolls surrete  4KS 25P  batteries and WBJ.
Grid tie feed-in, 12.5 kw in 3 arrays generating 50 kws per day average. Solar river grid tie inverters

onanparts

Hmmm...time for another peak inside the B17?  :)
I got the deluxe kit, it had a solar cell and a meter.

Midnite B17-10. 50kW Cont. 150kW Surge... Me/Myself/And/I

BobWhite

Quote from: onanparts on June 24, 2016, 02:11:09 PM
Hmmm...time for another peak inside the B17?  :)

Your having waaaaaaaay to much fun here!!! I can make out somthing here though  ;)
12-Lifeline AGM 8D's
10-Lifeline AGM GPL 31T
16- Diehard GC2
4-Classic 3-150 and 1-200
1-Classic Lite
2-BRATS
5wiz bang Jrs, , 2- Samlex-24Volt
5- 235 MX60s
10- Sharp 198
10 Solar world 345 XL Mono

CDN-VT

Quote from: onanparts on June 24, 2016, 02:11:09 PM
Hmmm...time for another peak inside the B17?  :)

Your brave posting pictures , I have a few but I wouldn't post any till Robin said it was ok.


WestBank / EJ , so If ya want , the 48V unit times 2 &  lets use my WA 98292 pad to pick them up on a trailer (less packing & hassle for all.)
I have picked up some Garage sale items that way & kept it as quick & clean as Possible , Plus you'll get to meet some real nice folks .


VT /Nig`
Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

onanparts

Quote from: CDN-VT on June 24, 2016, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: onanparts on June 24, 2016, 02:11:09 PM
Hmmm...time for another peak inside the B17?  :)

Your brave posting pictures , I have a few but I wouldn't post any till Robin said it was ok.

VT /Nig`

Pics are run by Robin first before posting.  :)

This one is an early prototype of what was a proposed Variable DC input selection mechanism. It was discarded in favor of fixed DC input voltages to keep the cost within a reasonable limit. Strictly a rumor that Midnite will not confirm or deny. Most likely pure stale inorganic PlasmaboBoyism.



I got the deluxe kit, it had a solar cell and a meter.

Midnite B17-10. 50kW Cont. 150kW Surge... Me/Myself/And/I

CDN-VT


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Pics are run by Robin first before posting.  :)


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Kewl
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Canadian Solar 350W 37.6 VOC  30.6 VMP 8.22 ISC 7.87 IMP ,-15 c +30c max  4 strings in 2 in Series for 24v Classic 150 -1020 Ah  Freezers & fridges ~~~ Second Array same panels of 3sx3 parallel for 24 V Classic 150 -440 Ah Outback Barns & out blds.
48Vdc almost done,11Strings up of 3s11P same panels

Highflyer

Robin,
I said I was going to get more than one because of the farm.  I have three locations that need remote big power.  Of course, if I can figure a way to share the power better, I'm in. 

Further, will it come with a charge controller?  My current plans are two kids for charging per location and then the inverter for power.  One location will have lower power requirements.  In the end, I would like to have two wind turbines, two solar fields for the main location, and smaller solar setups for the more remote power needs.  I also have hydro available to run a generator, but I am unsure of its capability due to the drought and then extremely wet periods.

Don't know if this helped, its just my plans and any help in correcting the design now is greatly appreciated. 
Brian

The one thing is the one thing