FIRMWARE UPDATE PROBLEMS!

[Resthome]

Looks like it's been changed.

After installing the firmware in the Classic AND MNGP it would be a good idea to do a "Factory Restore" or a "Quick Start".

[mike90045]

Looks like it's been changed.

After installing the firmware in the Classic AND MNGP it would be a good idea to do a "Factory Restore" or a "Quick Start".

Neither of those terms / functions seem to be in the General FAQ's sub forum.   Where can they be found

[cpttom]

They've updated the directions for the Windows 10 version of the Firmware upgrade: http://www.midnitesolar.com/firmwareReport.php?firmware_ID=17&firmwareProduct_ID=1&act=edit : Excellent!

Looks like it's been changed.

After installing the firmware in the Classic AND MNGP it would be a good idea to do a "Factory Restore" or a "Quick Start".

Neither of those terms / functions seem to be in the General FAQ's sub forum.   Where can they be found

[binkino]

First I was afraid to do the update on my Classic Lite ---  I know my "luck" sometimes ... hehe

So I downloaded the video, put it on my XP netbook together with the Update exe,
AND to avoid possible problems, thanks to this post from halfcrazy, because I sometimes had lost network connection to the Classic, unplugged the network cable
I followed the video and - it worked like a dream
no settings lost, all working again.
so easy

[Resthome]

no settings lost, all working again.

After any firmware update it is advisable to do a Factory Restore that sets all settings back to default.  So if you have "no settings lost" you may not have done a Factory Restore.

Release Notes:
You should do a factory restore after this update (Please note you should update the Classic and MNGP first). This will erase all the custom settings so make sure you have them noted before hand. The New AUX functions can possibly change the settings in the existing AUX modes so if a factory restore is not done please verify all Aux settings.

After installing the firmware in the Classic AND MNGP it would be a good idea to do a "Factory Restore" or a "Quick Start". To do this first turn the battery and solar power to the Classic off. Next, turn the battery power back on while holding the Left and Right arrows. Hold the arrows until the first "Solar, Wind or Hydro" screen pops up. Follow the on screen prompts and continue setup. Note: This will reset all settings to factory defaults. You will need to reset any custom settings such as Aux 1 and 2. You may want to write these settings down for reference prior to resetting the Classic.

[binkino]

I have a 'Lite' - I have to do the Jumper-thing

okay will do, can I restore the datas? Was hoping to keep them

[Resthome]

I have a 'Lite' - I have to do the Jumper-thing

okay will do, can I restore the datas? Was hoping to keep them

If you are referring to the daily log data you can use the "NEW DAY" function to write the current day data to the EPROM and then it will write the remaining day information at 23:59 so you would have two entries for the day that you would have to add together to get the daily total.  If you don't do this the current day data is lost.

Another way is to reboot after midnight and while it is still resting and before it starts charging and collecting data for the day.

You can also use the newest Local App to export all your Classic settings and then import them back in after rebooting the Classic using the Local App.

[binkino]

okay
So these datas are not lost, good to know

I cheated the Classic, set the time to 23.59 hour, and waited the reboot

So now I did the Jumper-Factory-Reset and give it all settings again.
2 reboots later all datas are displayed again, also WBJr is back in race
and Graham's Android App (a dream!) also diaplay all datas again.


oh - another hint, good to know:
If the PV-Input voltage is higher then normal in the classic at night, you forgot to switch on the PV Input breaker
hahaha - back to basement and give this switch a small roundhosekick - me again



thanks

[binkino]

Nevertheless, now the data are lost from Wednesday (yesterday) AND Tuesday ...

Tuesday was stored and the day was Wednesday
Wednesday was stored by setting the time to 23.59h and let it reboot and waiting some minutes before updating.

Why did it delete the datas from Tuesday?


See attachment, I still don't know how how to place the picture inside this post ...

[Resthome]

Sorry, I have no idea what program you are using or how you are adding the data.

And I did not tell you to change the time on the Classic.  I said to reboot after midnight while Classic was resting and before it started charging for the day.  Or use the new day function that makes two entries for the same day.

Have you tried to dump the OFFLINE data from the Local App?

I have no idea what it might have done changing the time forward and then changing it back. I would guess you would have cause it to write twice to the same day but do not really know. The New Day function is the correct way to do this. However, I have no idea what your app would do with two entries for the same day.

[Westbranch]

Does your monitoring program always save to the same location and use the same file name? 
If so that is why you no longer have the previous days data, it is overwritten.... 
AFAIK the data saved has to be APPENDED to the current data to avoid overwriting..
and it probably would have to be in a database form......
it has been too long ago for me to recall all that you have to do...

hth

[binkino]

The App ("Classic Monitor" from Graham) does not store datas, it allways loads the datas from the Classic (every time it connects)

So I was wondering, that also Tuesday was also lost - this is lost in the Classic
If only Wednesday would be lost, we could explane.
It is not the biggest problem, I lost so many datas because power cycling, when network part of the classic was not working, or if I had to work on the system... but curious

I would eb happy,  if there would be a way to direct modify the stored datas

[Resthome]

The App ("Classic Monitor" from Graham) does not store datas, it allways loads the datas from the Classic (every time it connects)

So I was wondering, that also Tuesday was also lost - this is lost in the Classic
If only Wednesday would be lost, we could explane.
It is not the biggest problem, I lost so many datas because power cycling, when network part of the classic was not working, or if I had to work on the system... but curious

I would eb happy,  if there would be a way to direct modify the stored datas

Oh I missed the part about you having a Lite with no RTC with battery backup.  The time and date inside the classic will be good after it is set as long as the power does not go off.  If the DC power goes off, then the time and date will have to be set by the PC Local App when it is turned back on again.  The data logs will not be correct until the time and date is set again.

You also cannot do the New Day function without the MNGP as I do not believe this function is in the Local App.

Have you ever waited until it writes to the EPROM for the day at 23:59 and then do you Factory Reset after the day has rolled over (verified with the LA) but while the Classic is still resting for the night and before it wakes up?  And then immediately resetting the date and time to the current date. Not changing the time with the LA to try to fake it out. It seems like that should work but maybe not.

I’m not a Lite user and much prefer the MNGP as it has so many more features and tricks that boB has put it. Well worth the money IMHO.

[binkino]

Yesterday noon (~ 11.00 am) I was in the basement and hear the fans were running full speed, the turbo fan was making bad noise, must check that the fan sits well in the case
AND all LEDs were blinking.
Wanted to check whats up, via the App, but was not able to connect via network.
So power.cycled the Classic by disconnect PV and then Batteries. Then reconnect Batteris and then PV, everything was running like before.

Problem: BUT again I lost stored datas of 2 days. The datas of yesterday and the day before.
Normaly it should only lose data of yesterday...

Can you give me a link to older firmwares?

Thanks

[Resthome]

Binkino

Are. You sure the clock has been set correctly on your life?

You should contact MidNite about the issue of the Classic locking up, this is not normal.